Llama 4 Scout 109B vs DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B
Side-by-side VRAM requirements, benchmark scores, and GPU compatibility for local AI inference.
Quick verdict
DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B is more hardware-efficient — it needs 42.2 GB at Q4_K_M vs 64.0 GB for Llama 4 Scout 109B, fitting on 38 GPUs natively. Llama 4 Scout 109B is a Mixture of Experts model — it has 109B total parameters but only 17B are active per token, making inference faster than its total size suggests.
VRAM at each quantization (8k context)
| Quant | Llama 4 Scout 109B | DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B | Diff |
|---|---|---|---|
| FP16 | 247.2 GB | 159.8 GB | +55% |
| Q8 | 125.1 GB | 81.4 GB | +54% |
| Q6_K | 94.6 GB | 61.8 GB | +53% |
| Q5_K_M | 79.3 GB | 52.0 GB | +52% |
| Q4_K_M | 64.0 GB | 42.2 GB | +52% |
| Q3_K_M | 51.8 GB | 34.4 GB | +51% |
| Q2_K | 39.6 GB | 26.5 GB | +49% |
Diff is Llama 4 Scout 109B relative to DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B. Green = lower VRAM (fits more GPUs).
Model specifications
| Spec | Llama 4 Scout 109B | DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B |
|---|---|---|
| Org | Meta | DeepSeek |
| Parameters | 109B | 70B |
| Architecture | MoE (17B active) | Dense |
| Context | 9766k tokens | 125k tokens |
| Modalities | text, vision | text |
| License | Llama 4 Community | MIT |
| Commercial | Yes | Yes |
| Released | 2025-04-05 | 2025-01-20 |
| GPUs (native) | 28 / 67 | 38 / 67 |
Benchmark scores
| Benchmark | Llama 4 Scout 109B | DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B |
|---|---|---|
| MMLU-Pro | 70.0 | 70.0 |
Green = higher score (better). — = not yet available.
GPUs that run only Llama 4 Scout 109B(0)
Every GPU that runs Llama 4 Scout 109B also runs DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B.
GPUs that run only DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B(10)
- NVIDIA RTX 509032 GB
- NVIDIA A100 40GB40 GB
- Apple M5 (32GB)32 GB
- Apple M4 (32GB)32 GB
- Apple M3 Max (36GB)36 GB
- Apple M3 Pro (36GB)36 GB
- Apple M2 Max (32GB)32 GB
- Apple M2 Pro (32GB)32 GB
- Apple M1 Max (32GB)32 GB
- Apple M1 Pro (32GB)32 GB
GPUs that run both natively(28)
- NVIDIA H100 80GB80 GB
- NVIDIA A100 80GB80 GB
- NVIDIA L40S48 GB
- NVIDIA RTX A600048 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 6000 Ada48 GB
- NVIDIA DGX Spark (128GB)128 GB
- AMD Instinct MI300X192 GB
- AMD Strix Halo (128GB)128 GB
- AMD Strix Halo (96GB)96 GB
- AMD Strix Halo (64GB)64 GB
- Apple M4 Ultra (384GB)384 GB
- Apple M4 Ultra (192GB)192 GB
- +16 more GPUs run both
Which should you use?
Choose Llama 4 Scout 109B if:
- • You want maximum capability and have a 65 GB+ GPU
- • You want fast inference — MoE only activates 17B params per token
- • Long context matters — it supports 9766k tokens vs 125k
- • You need vision/image understanding
Choose DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B if:
- • You have limited VRAM — it's a smaller model needing 42.2 GB vs 64.0 GB
- • You need chain-of-thought reasoning
Frequently asked questions
- Which is better, Llama 4 Scout 109B or DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B?
- Llama 4 Scout 109B has 109B parameters vs 70B for DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B, so Llama 4 Scout 109B is the larger model. DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B is more hardware-efficient, needing 42.2 GB at Q4_K_M vs 64.0 GB. DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B runs on more GPUs natively (38 vs 28). On MMLU-Pro, DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B scores higher (70.0 vs 70.0).
- How much VRAM does Llama 4 Scout 109B need vs DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B?
- At Q4_K_M quantization with 8k context, Llama 4 Scout 109B needs approximately 64.0 GB of VRAM, while DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B needs 42.2 GB. At FP16, Llama 4 Scout 109B requires 247.2 GB vs 159.8 GB for DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B.
- Can you run Llama 4 Scout 109B on the same GPUs as DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B?
- Yes, 28 GPUs can run both natively in VRAM, including NVIDIA H100 80GB, NVIDIA A100 80GB, NVIDIA L40S. However, no GPU can run Llama 4 Scout 109B without also fitting DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B, and 10 GPUs can run DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B but not Llama 4 Scout 109B.
- What is the difference between Llama 4 Scout 109B and DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B?
- Llama 4 Scout 109B has 109B parameters (17B active, MoE) with a 9766k context window. DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B has 70B parameters (dense) with a 125k context window. Licensing differs: Llama 4 Scout 109B is Llama 4 Community while DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B is MIT.
- Which model fits in 24 GB of VRAM, Llama 4 Scout 109B or DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B?
- Neither fits in 24 GB at Q4_K_M — Llama 4 Scout 109B needs 64.0 GB and DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B needs 42.2 GB. Both require at least a 48 GB GPU.