Llama 4 Scout 109B vs DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B
Side-by-side VRAM requirements, benchmark scores, and GPU compatibility for local AI inference.
Quick verdict
DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B is more hardware-efficient: it needs 50.8 GB at its Q4_K_M build vs 77.3 GB for Llama 4 Scout 109B's Q4_K_M, fitting on 44 GPUs natively. Llama 4 Scout 109B is a Mixture of Experts model: it has 109B total parameters but only 17B are active per token, making inference faster than its total size suggests.
VRAM at each quantization (8k context)
| Quant | Llama 4 Scout 109B | DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B | Diff |
|---|---|---|---|
| FP32 | 491.3 GB | 316.6 GB | +55% |
| BF16 | 247.2 GB | 159.8 GB | +55% |
| FP16 | 247.2 GB | 159.8 GB | +55% |
| Q8_0 | 132.8 GB | 86.3 GB | +54% |
| Q6_K | 103.2 GB | 67.4 GB | +53% |
| Q5_K_M | 89.9 GB | 58.8 GB | +53% |
| Q4_K_M | 77.3 GB | 50.8 GB | +52% |
| Q3_K_M | 61.7 GB | 40.7 GB | +52% |
| Q2_K | 49.5 GB | 32.9 GB | +51% |
| NVFP4 | 64.0 GB | 42.2 GB | +52% |
Diff is Llama 4 Scout 109B relative to DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B. Green = lower VRAM (fits more GPUs).
Model specifications
| Spec | Llama 4 Scout 109B | DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B |
|---|---|---|
| Org | Meta | DeepSeek |
| Parameters | 109B | 70B |
| Architecture | MoE (17B active) | Dense |
| Context | 9766k tokens | 125k tokens |
| Modalities | text, vision | text |
| License | Llama 4 Community | MIT |
| Commercial | Yes | Yes |
| Released | 2025-04-05 | 2025-01-20 |
| GPUs (native) | 33 / 119 | 44 / 119 |
Benchmark scores
| Benchmark | Llama 4 Scout 109B | DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B |
|---|---|---|
| MMLU-Pro | 74.3 | 70.0 |
Green = higher score (better). N/A = not yet available. ~ = inherited from a base model, not independently reported for that release itself.
GPUs that run only Llama 4 Scout 109B(0)
Every GPU that runs Llama 4 Scout 109B also runs DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B.
GPUs that run only DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B(11)
- NVIDIA A100 40GB40 GB
- NVIDIA L40S48 GB
- NVIDIA RTX A600048 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 6000 Ada48 GB
- AMD Radeon PRO W790048 GB
- Apple M5 Max (48GB)48 GB
- Apple M5 Pro (48GB)48 GB
- Apple M4 Max (48GB)48 GB
- Apple M4 Pro (48GB)48 GB
- Apple M3 Max (48GB)48 GB
- +1 more
GPUs that run both natively(33)
- NVIDIA B300 288GB288 GB
- NVIDIA B200 180GB180 GB
- NVIDIA H200 141GB141 GB
- NVIDIA H100 80GB80 GB
- NVIDIA A100 80GB80 GB
- NVIDIA RTX Pro 600096 GB
- NVIDIA DGX Spark (128GB)128 GB
- AMD Instinct MI300X192 GB
- AMD Strix Halo (128GB)128 GB
- AMD Strix Halo (96GB)96 GB
- AMD Strix Halo (64GB)64 GB
- Apple M5 Ultra (512GB)512 GB
- +21 more GPUs run both
Which should you use?
- • You want maximum capability and have a 78 GB+ GPU
- • You want fast inference: MoE only activates 17B params per token
- • Long context matters: it supports 9766k tokens vs 125k
- • Benchmark quality matters: scores 74.3 vs 70.0 on MMLU-Pro
- • You need vision/image understanding
- • It's the newer release (2025-04-05 vs 2025-01-20); check the benchmark table above for what actually improved
- • You have limited VRAM: it's a smaller model needing 50.8 GB vs 77.3 GB
- • You need chain-of-thought reasoning
Frequently asked questions
- Which is better, Llama 4 Scout 109B or DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B?
- Llama 4 Scout 109B has 109B parameters vs 70B for DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B, so Llama 4 Scout 109B is the larger model. DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B is more hardware-efficient, needing 50.8 GB at its Q4_K_M build vs 77.3 GB for Llama 4 Scout 109B's Q4_K_M. DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B runs on more GPUs natively (44 vs 33). On MMLU-Pro, Llama 4 Scout 109B scores higher (74.3 vs 70.0).
- How much VRAM does Llama 4 Scout 109B need vs DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B?
- At 8k context, Llama 4 Scout 109B needs approximately 77.3 GB of VRAM at its Q4_K_M build, while DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B needs 50.8 GB at its Q4_K_M build. At the largest build each ships, Llama 4 Scout 109B requires 247.2 GB (FP16) vs 159.8 GB (FP16) for DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B.
- Can you run Llama 4 Scout 109B on the same GPUs as DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B?
- Yes, 33 GPUs can run both natively in VRAM, including NVIDIA B300 288GB, NVIDIA B200 180GB, NVIDIA H200 141GB. However, no GPU can run Llama 4 Scout 109B without also fitting DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B, and 11 GPUs can run DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B but not Llama 4 Scout 109B.
- What is the difference between Llama 4 Scout 109B and DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B?
- Llama 4 Scout 109B has 109B parameters (17B active, MoE) with a 9766k context window. DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B has 70B parameters (dense) with a 125k context window. Licensing differs: Llama 4 Scout 109B is Llama 4 Community while DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B is MIT.
- Which model fits in 24 GB of VRAM, Llama 4 Scout 109B or DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B?
- Neither fits in 24 GB: Llama 4 Scout 109B needs 77.3 GB at Q4_K_M and DeepSeek R1 Distill Llama 70B needs 50.8 GB at Q4_K_M. Both require a multi-GPU server with 78 GB+ of combined VRAM.