Bonsai 2 27B vs Qwen 3.8 27B
Side-by-side VRAM requirements, benchmark scores, and GPU compatibility for local AI inference.
Quick verdict
Bonsai 2 27B is more hardware-efficient: it needs 7.2 GB at its Ternary (Q2_0) build vs 19.0 GB for Qwen 3.8 27B's Q4_K_M, fitting on 111 GPUs natively.
Analysis
Bonsai 2 27B is a proprietary PrismML requantization of Qwen 3.8 27B, not a separate model with its own weights: same architecture, same training, same 27B parameters, run through a 1.58-bit (ternary) compression pass. That makes this comparison unusual for this site: there's no capability tradeoff to discover, only a size-versus-quality one, since every difference in the numbers below comes from compression, not a different pretrain.
Qwen 3.8 27B ships the standard FP32-to-Q2_K ladder: BF16 weights run 54.0 GB, and Alibaba's own recommended Q4_K_M build totals 19.0 GB at 8k context (16.4 GB weights, 0.5 GB KV cache, 12% activation overhead). Bonsai 2 27B skips that ladder entirely and ships one fixed Ternary (Q2_0) file: 5.9 GB weights, 7.2 GB total at 8k context, roughly 9.2x smaller than Qwen 3.8 27B's own BF16 weights and still 2.6x smaller than its recommended Q4_K_M build. PrismML's own six-category capability table, run against this exact FP16 checkpoint, reports 98.2% aggregate quality retained at that footprint, with the smallest hit on Vision (96.3% retention) and, unusually, a small gain on Instruction Following (82.66 vs 81.25, a 102% retention figure). That capacity difference isn't just about card size: because Qwen 3.8 27B's real hybrid stack (16 of 64 layers keep a KV cache) carries over into Bonsai 2 27B unchanged, the KV-cache math is identical between the two; the entire VRAM gap comes from the weights file alone. It also shows up in GPU reach: 111 of the 119 GPUs this site tracks run Bonsai 2 27B natively at 8k context against 84 for Qwen 3.8 27B, and every GPU that fits Qwen 3.8 27B also fits Bonsai 2 27B, plus 27 more, mostly older or 8-12GB consumer cards that can't clear even Qwen 3.8 27B's lowest real ladder rung.
Bottom line: If an 8GB-class GPU, base-tier Apple Silicon, or a phone is the hard constraint, Bonsai 2 27B is the only one of the two that actually runs there, and PrismML's own numbers say it keeps most of the original's quality intact. If the hardware isn't the constraint, Qwen 3.8 27B itself is the safer choice: 1.58 bits/weight is still an aggressive compression, PrismML's retention figures are vendor-reported and not yet independently verified, and a standard Q4_K_M build already fits comfortably on any 24GB card with far less quality risk. Reach for the Ternary build specifically because the VRAM ceiling forces it, not as a free way to get the same model for less.
PrismML's own capability breakdown: Bonsai 2 27B against the exact FP16 checkpoint it's compressed from
PrismML's launch announcement for Bonsai 2 27B reports a six-category in-house suite run on both the untouched Qwen 3.8 27B checkpoint and this Ternary compression of it, the most direct evidence available for what the 1.58-bit compression actually costs.
PrismML (@PrismML on X), Bonsai 2 27B launch announcement, 18 September 2026. PrismML's own in-house capability suite; not yet listed on any independent leaderboard or independently reproduced.
VRAM at each real build (8k context)
Bonsai 2 27B ships as a handful of fixed prebuilt files rather than a standard quantization ladder, so it has no real Q4_K_M/FP16/etc. equivalent to Qwen 3.8 27B's. Ranked smallest to largest instead.
| Rank | Bonsai 2 27B | GB | Qwen 3.8 27B | GB |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Ternary (Q2_0) | 7.2 GB | Q2_K | 12.1 GB |
| 2 | — | — | Q3_K_M | 15.2 GB |
| 3 | — | — | NVFP4 | 15.7 GB |
| 4 | — | — | Q4_K_M | 19.0 GB |
| 5 | — | — | Q5_K_M | 22.1 GB |
| 6 | — | — | Q6_K | 25.4 GB |
| 7 | — | — | Q8_0 | 32.8 GB |
| 8 | — | — | BF16 | 61.1 GB |
| 9 | — | — | FP16 | 61.1 GB |
| 10 | — | — | FP32 | 121.6 GB |
Each column is that model's own real builds, smallest first; rank pairs them by position, not by matching precision.
Model specifications
| Spec | Bonsai 2 27B | Qwen 3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| Org | PrismML | Alibaba |
| Parameters | 27B | 27B |
| Architecture | Dense | Dense |
| Context | 256k tokens | 256k tokens |
| Modalities | text, vision | text, vision, video |
| License | Apache 2.0 | Apache 2.0 |
| Commercial | Yes | Yes |
| Released | 2026-09-18 | 2026-08-14 |
| GPUs (native) | 111 / 119 | 84 / 119 |
Benchmark scores
| Benchmark | Bonsai 2 27B | Qwen 3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| Terminal-Bench 2.1 | ~71.0 | 73.0 |
Green = higher score (better). N/A = not yet available. ~ = inherited from a base model, not independently reported for that release itself.
GPUs that run only Bonsai 2 27B(27)
- NVIDIA RTX 507012 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 5060 Ti 8GB8 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 50608 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 50508 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti12 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 4070 SUPER12 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 407012 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 40608 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 3080 10GB10 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 3060 12GB12 GB
- +17 more
GPUs that run only Qwen 3.8 27B(0)
Every GPU that runs Qwen 3.8 27B also runs Bonsai 2 27B.
GPUs that run both natively(84)
- NVIDIA RTX 509032 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 508016 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 5070 Ti16 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 5060 Ti 16GB16 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 409024 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 408016 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti SUPER16 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 4060 Ti 16GB16 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 309024 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti24 GB
- NVIDIA B300 288GB288 GB
- NVIDIA B200 180GB180 GB
- +72 more GPUs run both
Which should you use?
- • It's the newer release (2026-09-18 vs 2026-08-14); check the benchmark table above for what actually improved
- • You're running coding tasks
- • You need chain-of-thought reasoning
Frequently asked questions
- Which is better, Bonsai 2 27B or Qwen 3.8 27B?
- Bonsai 2 27B is more hardware-efficient, needing 7.2 GB at its Ternary (Q2_0) build vs 19.0 GB for Qwen 3.8 27B's Q4_K_M. Bonsai 2 27B runs on more GPUs natively (111 vs 84).
- How much VRAM does Bonsai 2 27B need vs Qwen 3.8 27B?
- At 8k context, Bonsai 2 27B needs approximately 7.2 GB of VRAM at its Ternary (Q2_0) build, while Qwen 3.8 27B needs 19.0 GB at its Q4_K_M build. At the largest build each ships, Bonsai 2 27B requires 7.2 GB (Ternary (Q2_0)) vs 61.1 GB (FP16) for Qwen 3.8 27B.
- Can you run Bonsai 2 27B on the same GPUs as Qwen 3.8 27B?
- Yes, 84 GPUs can run both natively in VRAM, including NVIDIA RTX 5090, NVIDIA RTX 5080, NVIDIA RTX 5070 Ti. However, 27 GPUs can run Bonsai 2 27B but not Qwen 3.8 27B, and no GPU can run Qwen 3.8 27B without also fitting Bonsai 2 27B.
- What is the difference between Bonsai 2 27B and Qwen 3.8 27B?
- Bonsai 2 27B has 27B parameters (dense) with a 256k context window. Qwen 3.8 27B has 27B parameters (dense) with a 256k context window.
- Which model fits in 24 GB of VRAM, Bonsai 2 27B or Qwen 3.8 27B?
- Both fit in 24 GB of VRAM at their respective recommended builds: Bonsai 2 27B (Ternary (Q2_0)) needs 7.2 GB and Qwen 3.8 27B (Q4_K_M) needs 19.0 GB.