Qwen 3.8 27B vs Muse Glimmer 30B
Side-by-side VRAM requirements, benchmark scores, and GPU compatibility for local AI inference.
Quick verdict
Qwen 3.8 27B is more hardware-efficient — it needs 19.0 GB at Q4_K_M vs 19.2 GB for Muse Glimmer 30B, fitting on 78 GPUs natively.
Analysis
Qwen 3.8 27B and Muse Glimmer 30B are both dense, sub-30B agentic models that shipped four days apart in August 2026, Muse Glimmer on the 10th, Qwen on the 14th. The timing matters for more than trivia: Muse Glimmer's own launch benchmarks were measured against Qwen 3.6 27B and Gemma 4 31B, the two same-week peers Meta had on hand at the time. Qwen 3.8 27B, which replaced Qwen 3.6 27B the same week Muse Glimmer shipped, was never part of that comparison, so this pairing is the first place the two models actually sit side by side.
Qwen 3.8 27B kept its predecessor's hybrid stack unchanged: 64 layers, 16 of them Gated Attention (4 KV heads, 256 head dim) that keep a real KV cache, the other 48 running Gated DeltaNet, linear attention whose memory is a fixed-size recurrent state that doesn't grow with context. Muse Glimmer 30B reaches for the same goal a different way: all 52 of its layers are ordinary attention, but 39 of them, a repeating pattern of three sliding-window layers per one full-attention layer, cap their cache at a 2,048-token window, paired with one of the narrowest KV widths tracked on this site (2 KV heads, 128 head dim, a 16:1 GQA ratio). Qwen's native context window, 262,144 tokens, is double Muse Glimmer's 131,072, so the two only overlap up to Muse Glimmer's own ceiling. At that 131,072-token limit, Qwen's KV cache is 8.6 GB against Muse Glimmer's 1.8 GB; add each model's Q4_K_M weights and the full picture is 28.0 GB total for Qwen 3.8 27B against 21.0 GB for Muse Glimmer 30B, close to 7 GB apart on the same card. On the benchmark fields both models report, each vendor's own numbers, not a controlled shared test, Qwen leads clearly: GPQA Diamond 89.2 against 83.5, SWE-bench Pro 61.7 against 51.2, and Terminal-Bench 2.1 73.0 against 51.7, more than double Muse Glimmer's score on that last one. Modality splits the other way in scope, not favor: Qwen 3.8 27B natively understands video as well as images, where Muse Glimmer's vision input, a separate ViT-G/14 encoder shipped as its own mmproj file, stops at still images. Both ship under an unrestricted Apache 2.0 license. Neither had a finished day-one tooling story: Qwen 3.8 27B shipped with no Ollama tag at all, and Muse Glimmer's only launch tag, muse-glimmer:30b-mlx, runs exclusively through Apple's MLX engine, with NVIDIA and AMD support still rolling out as of release day. llama.cpp or vLLM is the dependable route for either model on non-Apple hardware.
Bottom line: Qwen 3.8 27B is the stronger pick on raw benchmark scores and context length: it leads Muse Glimmer on every metric both report and reaches twice the context window. Muse Glimmer 30B's case is narrower: pick it for the smaller VRAM footprint, about 7 GB less at the 131,072-token ceiling both models can reach, or if you're specifically on Apple Silicon, where Muse Glimmer's day-one MLX tag already works and Qwen's Ollama support doesn't exist yet.
What Muse Glimmer's 131,072-token ceiling costs each model
Qwen 3.8 27B's native context window reaches 262,144 tokens; Muse Glimmer 30B's stops at 131,072. Restricted to the range both models can actually reach, Qwen's hybrid DeltaNet stack still caches more per token than Muse Glimmer's narrower, window-capped attention.
KV cache only, at FP16. Weights and activation overhead sit on top of these figures.
At 131,072 tokens, the most Muse Glimmer 30B supports, Qwen 3.8 27B's KV cache is 8.6 GB against Muse Glimmer's 1.8 GB. Add each model's Q4_K_M weights and the full picture is 28.0 GB total for Qwen 3.8 27B against 21.0 GB for Muse Glimmer 30B, both well inside a single 24 GB card's budget, but Muse Glimmer leaves noticeably more headroom for a longer conversation or a larger batch.
VRAM at each quantization (8k context)
| Quant | Qwen 3.8 27B | Muse Glimmer 30B | Diff |
|---|---|---|---|
| FP32 | 121.6 GB | 124.8 GB | -3% |
| BF16 | 61.1 GB | 62.5 GB | -2% |
| FP16 | 61.1 GB | 62.5 GB | -2% |
| Q8_0 | 32.8 GB | 33.3 GB | -2% |
| Q6_K | 25.4 GB | 25.8 GB | -1% |
| Q5_K_M | 22.1 GB | 22.4 GB | -1% |
| Q4_K_M | 19.0 GB | 19.2 GB | -1% |
| Q3_K_M | 15.2 GB | 15.2 GB | -0% |
| Q2_K | 12.1 GB | 12.1 GB | +0% |
| NVFP4 | 15.7 GB | 15.8 GB | -0% |
Diff is Qwen 3.8 27B relative to Muse Glimmer 30B. Green = lower VRAM (fits more GPUs).
Model specifications
| Spec | Qwen 3.8 27B | Muse Glimmer 30B |
|---|---|---|
| Org | Alibaba | Meta |
| Parameters | 27B | 27.8B |
| Architecture | Dense | Dense |
| Context | 256k tokens | 128k tokens |
| Modalities | text, vision, video | text, vision |
| License | Apache 2.0 | Apache 2.0 |
| Commercial | Yes | Yes |
| Released | 2026-08-14 | 2026-08-10 |
| GPUs (native) | 78 / 112 | 78 / 112 |
Benchmark scores
| Benchmark | Qwen 3.8 27B | Muse Glimmer 30B |
|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | 89.2 | 83.5 |
| LiveCodeBench | 90.3 | — |
| SWE-bench Pro | 61.7 | 51.2 |
| Terminal-Bench 2.1 | 73.0 | 51.7 |
Green = higher score (better). — = not yet available.
GPUs that run only Qwen 3.8 27B(0)
Every GPU that runs Qwen 3.8 27B also runs Muse Glimmer 30B.
GPUs that run only Muse Glimmer 30B(0)
Every GPU that runs Muse Glimmer 30B also runs Qwen 3.8 27B.
GPUs that run both natively(78)
- NVIDIA RTX 509032 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 508016 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 5070 Ti16 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 5060 Ti 16GB16 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 409024 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 408016 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti SUPER16 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 4060 Ti 16GB16 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 309024 GB
- NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti24 GB
- NVIDIA B300 288GB288 GB
- NVIDIA B200 180GB180 GB
- +66 more GPUs run both
Which should you use?
- • You have limited VRAM — it's a smaller model needing 19.0 GB vs 19.2 GB
- • Long context matters — it supports 256k tokens vs 128k
- • It's the newer release (2026-08-14 vs 2026-08-10) — check the benchmark table above for what actually improved
- • You want maximum capability and have a 20 GB+ GPU
Frequently asked questions
- Which is better, Qwen 3.8 27B or Muse Glimmer 30B?
- Qwen 3.8 27B has 27B parameters vs 27.8B for Muse Glimmer 30B, so Muse Glimmer 30B is the larger model. Qwen 3.8 27B is more hardware-efficient, needing 19.0 GB at Q4_K_M vs 19.2 GB.
- How much VRAM does Qwen 3.8 27B need vs Muse Glimmer 30B?
- At Q4_K_M quantization with 8k context, Qwen 3.8 27B needs approximately 19.0 GB of VRAM, while Muse Glimmer 30B needs 19.2 GB. At FP16, Qwen 3.8 27B requires 61.1 GB vs 62.5 GB for Muse Glimmer 30B.
- Can you run Qwen 3.8 27B on the same GPUs as Muse Glimmer 30B?
- Yes, 78 GPUs can run both natively in VRAM, including NVIDIA RTX 5090, NVIDIA RTX 5080, NVIDIA RTX 5070 Ti. However, no GPU can run Qwen 3.8 27B without also fitting Muse Glimmer 30B, and no GPU can run Muse Glimmer 30B without also fitting Qwen 3.8 27B.
- What is the difference between Qwen 3.8 27B and Muse Glimmer 30B?
- Qwen 3.8 27B has 27B parameters (dense) with a 256k context window. Muse Glimmer 30B has 27.8B parameters (dense) with a 128k context window.
- Which model fits in 24 GB of VRAM, Qwen 3.8 27B or Muse Glimmer 30B?
- Both fit in 24 GB of VRAM at Q4_K_M — Qwen 3.8 27B needs 19.0 GB and Muse Glimmer 30B needs 19.2 GB.
- Which handles long context better, Qwen 3.8 27B or Muse Glimmer 30B?
- At 131,072 tokens, the most Muse Glimmer 30B supports, Qwen 3.8 27B's KV cache is 8.6 GB against Muse Glimmer's 1.8 GB. Add each model's Q4_K_M weights and the full picture is 28.0 GB total for Qwen 3.8 27B against 21.0 GB for Muse Glimmer 30B, both well inside a single 24 GB card's budget, but Muse Glimmer leaves noticeably more headroom for a longer conversation or a larger batch.