DeepSeek R1 671B vs Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE)
Side-by-side VRAM requirements, benchmark scores, and GPU compatibility for local AI inference.
Quick verdict
Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE) is more hardware-efficient: it needs 162.1 GB at its Q4_K_M build vs 458.3 GB for DeepSeek R1 671B's Q4_K_M, fitting on 16 GPUs natively.
VRAM at each quantization (8k context)
FP32
DeepSeek R1 671B
3006.7 GB
Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE)
1054.6 GB
BF16
DeepSeek R1 671B
1503.6 GB
Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE)
528.2 GB
FP16
DeepSeek R1 671B
1503.6 GB
Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE)
528.2 GB
Q8_0
DeepSeek R1 671B
799.4 GB
Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE)
281.6 GB
Q6_K
DeepSeek R1 671B
617.6 GB
Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE)
217.8 GB
Q5_K_M
DeepSeek R1 671B
535.7 GB
Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE)
189.2 GB
Q4_K_M
DeepSeek R1 671B
458.3 GB
Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE)
162.1 GB
Q3_K_M
DeepSeek R1 671B
362.1 GB
Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE)
128.4 GB
Q2_K
DeepSeek R1 671B
286.9 GB
Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE)
102.0 GB
NVFP4
DeepSeek R1 671B
376.3 GB
Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE)
133.4 GB
| Quant | DeepSeek R1 671B | Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE) | Diff |
|---|---|---|---|
| FP32 | 3006.7 GB | 1054.6 GB | +185% |
| BF16 | 1503.6 GB | 528.2 GB | +185% |
| FP16 | 1503.6 GB | 528.2 GB | +185% |
| Q8_0 | 799.4 GB | 281.6 GB | +184% |
| Q6_K | 617.6 GB | 217.8 GB | +183% |
| Q5_K_M | 535.7 GB | 189.2 GB | +183% |
| Q4_K_M | 458.3 GB | 162.1 GB | +183% |
| Q3_K_M | 362.1 GB | 128.4 GB | +182% |
| Q2_K | 286.9 GB | 102.0 GB | +181% |
| NVFP4 | 376.3 GB | 133.4 GB | +182% |
Diff is DeepSeek R1 671B relative to Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE). Green = lower VRAM (fits more GPUs).
Model specifications
| Spec | DeepSeek R1 671B | Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE) |
|---|---|---|
| Org | DeepSeek | Alibaba |
| Parameters | 671B | 235B |
| Architecture | MoE (37B active) | MoE (22B active) |
| Context | 125k tokens | 128k tokens |
| Modalities | text | text |
| License | MIT | Apache 2.0 |
| Commercial | Yes | Yes |
| Released | 2025-01-20 | 2025-04-29 |
| GPUs (native) | 2 / 119 | 16 / 119 |
Benchmark scores
| Benchmark | DeepSeek R1 671B | Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE) |
|---|---|---|
| MMLU-Pro | 85.0 | 84.4 |
| GPQA Diamond | 71.5 | N/A |
| IFEval | 83.3 | N/A |
| MATH | 97.3 | N/A |
| LiveCodeBench | 65.9 | N/A |
Green = higher score (better). N/A = not yet available. ~ = inherited from a base model, not independently reported for that release itself.
GPUs that run only DeepSeek R1 671B(0)
Every GPU that runs DeepSeek R1 671B also runs Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE).
GPUs that run only Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE)(14)
- NVIDIA B300 288GB288 GB
- NVIDIA B200 180GB180 GB
- NVIDIA H200 141GB141 GB
- NVIDIA DGX Spark (128GB)128 GB
- AMD Instinct MI300X192 GB
- AMD Strix Halo (128GB)128 GB
- Apple M5 Ultra (256GB)256 GB
- Apple M5 Max (128GB)128 GB
- Apple M4 Max (128GB)128 GB
- Apple M3 Ultra (256GB)256 GB
- +4 more
GPUs that run both natively(2)
- Apple M5 Ultra (512GB)512 GB
- Apple M3 Ultra (512GB)512 GB
Which should you use?
Choose DeepSeek R1 671B if:
- • You want maximum capability and have a 459 GB+ GPU
- • Benchmark quality matters: scores 85.0 vs 84.4 on MMLU-Pro
Choose Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE) if:
- • You have limited VRAM: it's a smaller model needing 162.1 GB vs 458.3 GB
- • Long context matters: it supports 128k tokens vs 125k
- • It's the newer release (2025-04-29 vs 2025-01-20); check the benchmark table above for what actually improved
Frequently asked questions
- Which is better, DeepSeek R1 671B or Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE)?
- DeepSeek R1 671B has 671B parameters vs 235B for Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE), so DeepSeek R1 671B is the larger model. Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE) is more hardware-efficient, needing 162.1 GB at its Q4_K_M build vs 458.3 GB for DeepSeek R1 671B's Q4_K_M. Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE) runs on more GPUs natively (16 vs 2). On MMLU-Pro, DeepSeek R1 671B scores higher (85.0 vs 84.4).
- How much VRAM does DeepSeek R1 671B need vs Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE)?
- At 8k context, DeepSeek R1 671B needs approximately 458.3 GB of VRAM at its Q4_K_M build, while Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE) needs 162.1 GB at its Q4_K_M build. At the largest build each ships, DeepSeek R1 671B requires 1503.6 GB (FP16) vs 528.2 GB (FP16) for Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE).
- Can you run DeepSeek R1 671B on the same GPUs as Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE)?
- Yes, 2 GPUs can run both natively in VRAM, including Apple M5 Ultra (512GB), Apple M3 Ultra (512GB). However, no GPU can run DeepSeek R1 671B without also fitting Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE), and 14 GPUs can run Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE) but not DeepSeek R1 671B.
- What is the difference between DeepSeek R1 671B and Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE)?
- DeepSeek R1 671B has 671B parameters (37B active, MoE) with a 125k context window. Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE) has 235B parameters (22B active, MoE) with a 128k context window. Licensing differs: DeepSeek R1 671B is MIT while Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE) is Apache 2.0.
- Which model fits in 24 GB of VRAM, DeepSeek R1 671B or Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE)?
- Neither fits in 24 GB: DeepSeek R1 671B needs 458.3 GB at Q4_K_M and Qwen3 235B-A22B (MoE) needs 162.1 GB at Q4_K_M. Both require a multi-GPU server with 459 GB+ of combined VRAM.